FRAML> KATS, Not necessarily. If the person is aware of the existence of discarnates and asks God for protection then it is possible. Many folks have them without realizing it, or invite them to join. Re: my case with the Shawnee warrior attachee and Sgt Odem from WWII in the Ardennes. I never knew they were there. but Sgt Odem was driving me to look for some location in the Ardennes (but that fit in with my being a military historian).
kats> But what if the person is unaware of the discarnates and therefore doesn't ask for protection?
FRAML> BLUE, Sgt Odem was a name I got while watching a documentary about the Battle of the Bulge (Ardennes Campaign) during Dec of 1994. At the time I was writting 1944 on every thing, instead of 1994. The name wasn't in the show but came into my head as 'I'm Sgt. Odem, that is what happened to me.' And "that" was a shell shocked soldier being given a knockout pill to help him get over the shock of battle in a rear area hospital.
FRAML> KATS, If a person is unaware then the discarnate attaches and either stays there quietly, or they can attempt to manipulate the person to complete what the discarnate left unfinished in this life. Or just make trouble. My Shawnee warrior said he was a sentinel, rather than a guardian in the legal sense of the term.
blue> FRAML: Because he wanted to give you his story to include in your research? Did he give you clues on how/where to do your research?
kats> FRAML Was there a chance that he wanted you to do something for him? Like clear up muddied waters as to what happened or something?
FRAML> BLUE/KATS, It turned out he was the sole survivor of his platoon from an attack somewhere in the Ardennes, the US troops attacked across this snow covered field and was wiped out except for him. He later died feeling guilty for being the sole survivor. His buddies came to him during the detachment session and said, "welcome" and the spirit of their Lt., who had died earlier, said that he had blocked Oden from rising out of is foxhole to make the attack, literally knocked him back. The Lt. wanted him alive to tell of the sacrifice of the others. I don't think I found the location, but I narrowed it down to the North shoulder of the Bulge, and I haven't found his name on any of the lists of WWII reports that I'm now reviewing as part of my job.
kats> SO if one asks for protection from discarnates that may or may not be there, and asks for an easy way to identify any prospective newcomers, one may be assured that he/she will not be bothered?
FRAML> BLUE, At the time I was visiting the Ardennes I was an Army Captain based in Germany. Now I'm a historical document declassifier.
kats> FRAML, so his guilt in life may have kept him here. How terribly sad.
FRAML> KATS, yes. I will armor myself when I enter a place where I think there might be discarnates lurking, and ask Jesus for rescue teams of angels to first detach any that I have after armoring and then to rescue any discarnates I run into. Works nicely for bars, churches before funerals, hospital chapels, and hospitals in general.
FRAML> In this case I am working to help lost souls get off the reincarnation cycle.
Ben> FRAML: Yes, I think you should write that up (copy from this transcript) and post it on your site.
kats> FRAML, good way to put it "getting off the reincarnation cycle" Never thought of that, and NEVER thought of sending them to the light. My Mother told me to do that with my brother, but I don't think he got it.
FRAML> KATS, Well, at least you know where the rescue line is and you are using it. And that there Is One.
